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Marc Roberts's avatar

Will admit I did click through to read due to the cover photo. Which is a famous stage bomb photo from punks camera king Edward Colver (maybe photos should be credited).

I think everything you have written is on the money, people will now transform themselves to purely share online and will be a different person in public.

At its roots being a part of a scene or sub-culture kept you within that circle and made for a community, that has unfortunately lost some of its charm with social media.

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Toddy Stewart's avatar

At which point will the delineation (definition?) of sub-culture be contingent on culture being unaware of it? Similarly, or alternatively, when is culture conflated with the platform? And so simply being part of the platform, "on the platform," of culture strips away and "sub" classification? Or maybe I am confusing "sub" and "counter." Is sub, as a diminutive offshoot (even an "alternative" one) simply part (and parcel) of the larger culture by this definition? If yes, then the question that matters at all in this conversation is the one involving the "counter" designation, not "sub" ("alternative" or not.) In which case counter-culture simply cannot, by definition of being "off-platform," exist on Tik Tok and cannot be considered a sub-culture at all. Thought possibly it might start as a sub-culture, in one way and another, but the unruly and amalgamizing liberty of counter-culture must certainly feed from multiple sources to break it from being any homogenized "sub." So is counter-culture always a splintered version, necessarily anarchic in origin? This seems to be definitional as well. Anyway, I guess I'm getting to making a point, or stating an opinion, that any "alternative subculture" that exists on Tik Tok, a platform that flattens any cultural proposition upon arrival, or rather engulfs it, is a non starter in the relevance category. At this point only counter-culture will really do.

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